Comments on: Hull KR 48-12 Salford City Reds (eSL R7) http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/ Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:21:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Korki http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-642 Korki Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:13:10 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-642 Why won't he give Big Phil our best prop more game time Why won’t he give Big Phil our best prop more game time

]]> By: Graham Morris http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Graham Morris Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:07 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-627 For Salford to compete in the top half of the table and remain there they must have a blend of experience and youth, and more importantly players that run their weight and above. Small full backs are not acceptable in this modern game, neither are centers that can't hold a line and do basic blanket cover tackling. The inability to cover the ball when tackling never ceases to amaze me, and the forgotten art of the hand off. We need forwards that will break the tackle regularly and not try to side step on the last second, kidding nobody (you know who you are). Sean McRae is arguably one of the best coaches around, but more money is required to bring quality to our great club, and everybody knows, success brings success. If anybody knows of any budding Mike Coulmans or Chris Heskeths, please get in touch with the club. For Salford to compete in the top half of the table and remain there they must have a blend of experience and youth, and more importantly players that run their weight and above. Small full backs are not acceptable in this modern game, neither are centers that can’t hold a line and do basic blanket cover tackling. The inability to cover the ball when tackling never ceases to amaze me, and the forgotten art of the hand off. We need forwards that will break the tackle regularly and not try to side step on the last second, kidding nobody (you know who you are). Sean McRae is arguably one of the best coaches around, but more money is required to bring quality to our great club, and everybody knows, success brings success. If anybody knows of any budding Mike Coulmans or Chris Heskeths, please get in touch with the club.

]]> By: Paul Mc http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-609 Paul Mc Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:24:39 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-609 ...yes I am still up doing this...:) As I said I (personally) believe the fans were guilty of high expectations. I was there at wakey when they booed them off at half time. At Cas where there was a lot of rubbish went on. Yet a few weeks later these teams lie 4 and 8th in the table and we'd played one home game against the team who came up with us. Against Quins - another team we all believed we should be beating...then they put 60 on Warrington - a team people perenially tip for the Grand Final. And I also believe staff, players and coaches were too - but equally I want them to be because I want them going into the season believing in themselves. Cas, Hull KR, Celtic and ourselves have all struggled in the initial weeks between NL1 and SL. Cas and Hull KR no longer have that problem... As for the ground, nothing's being kept secret, there's just nothing publishable at the mo. There are new plans knocking about internally but nothing rubber-stamped for approval. Between the Peels, the Councils, the Club and the College there are a lot of people safeguarding a lot of interests for some huge organisations. It's a lot more complex than when Red City were just "going to build our new stadium and put a big casino in it" I'm off to bed shortly cos my nipper is poorly and I get the feeling I'll be up most of the night so if you can all behave till the morning it will be muchos appreciated ;-) …yes I am still up doing this…:)

As I said I (personally) believe the fans were guilty of high expectations. I was there at wakey when they booed them off at half time. At Cas where there was a lot of rubbish went on. Yet a few weeks later these teams lie 4 and 8th in the table and we’d played one home game against the team who came up with us.

Against Quins – another team we all believed we should be beating…then they put 60 on Warrington – a team people perenially tip for the Grand Final.

And I also believe staff, players and coaches were too – but equally I want them to be because I want them going into the season believing in themselves.

Cas, Hull KR, Celtic and ourselves have all struggled in the initial weeks between NL1 and SL. Cas and Hull KR no longer have that problem…

As for the ground, nothing’s being kept secret, there’s just nothing publishable at the mo. There are new plans knocking about internally but nothing rubber-stamped for approval.

Between the Peels, the Councils, the Club and the College there are a lot of people safeguarding a lot of interests for some huge organisations. It’s a lot more complex than when Red City were just “going to build our new stadium and put a big casino in it”

I’m off to bed shortly cos my nipper is poorly and I get the feeling I’ll be up most of the night so if you can all behave till the morning it will be muchos appreciated ;-)

]]> By: big truck http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-607 big truck Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:07:55 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-607 and i think your doing a good job doing the pre match entertainment on the pitch, you could try and get the fans on the other side to sing as well though, its not just the shed that needs to sing, get em going, better atmosphere may bring the players up a bit. and i think your doing a good job doing the pre match entertainment on the pitch, you could try and get the fans on the other side to sing as well though, its not just the shed that needs to sing, get em going, better atmosphere may bring the players up a bit.

]]> By: big truck http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-606 big truck Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:06:11 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-606 fans guilty of high expectations, it was coaching staff (being carefull not mention any names incase of being 'told off' ) and players in papers on the website saying how good we are going to be with these classy overseas signings we have made, i remember sky sports against the crusaders, our now captain (again being careful not to single anyone out) said that salford city reds were a very close, sorry, tight team, well can they please show me where they are tight because it certainly isnt on the playing field, i also have worked around the world with the british army and yes for once we agree i came home for family and salford city reds, i have also supported them since an early age and have seen some bad times, but not as bad as this. the fans feel so much for mr wilkinson, it seems he's just pouring money down the drain, and no-one seems to be answering the question of where is the new ground, all that seems to be going on there is a dirt groung for the bikes, but thats being going on for years, why have the plans not been published for anyone to see, mmmmmmmmmm, something dodgy it seems, us fans are mushrooms kept in the dark and fed on the proverbial. sorry if you think i was trying to argue with you paul that is not the case, just trying to put the case across probably what all salford fans think. fans guilty of high expectations, it was coaching staff (being carefull not mention any names incase of being ‘told off’ ) and players in papers on the website saying how good we are going to be with these classy overseas signings we have made, i remember sky sports against the crusaders, our now captain (again being careful not to single anyone out) said that salford city reds were a very close, sorry, tight team, well can they please show me where they are tight because it certainly isnt on the playing field, i also have worked around the world with the british army and yes for once we agree i came home for family and salford city reds, i have also supported them since an early age and have seen some bad times, but not as bad as this. the fans feel so much for mr wilkinson, it seems he’s just pouring money down the drain, and no-one seems to be answering the question of where is the new ground, all that seems to be going on there is a dirt groung for the bikes, but thats being going on for years, why have the plans not been published for anyone to see, mmmmmmmmmm, something dodgy it seems, us fans are mushrooms kept in the dark and fed on the proverbial.
sorry if you think i was trying to argue with you paul that is not the case, just trying to put the case across probably what all salford fans think.

]]> By: Chris W http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-603 Chris W Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:26:20 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-603 If I can just add that I would say that I said what I said because we a suposed to be watching a professional game and if the very very basics are not done to the slightest like the team is doing then they can forget it. Our defence is below amateur of the vvvvvery basic they do not defend in a line they never cover the ball as they should , individuals break the line and miss the key tackles constantly. When you look at a teams stats they show breaks etc but the word break means to use force to penetrate resistance "WHAT RESISTANCE" the tackling is attrocious beyond belief and the lack of coordination means the floodgates open. In attack we have problems stringing paases or thoughts together its absolute one off opportunism. I am astounded by the lack of dedication and professionalism. I do not need to be told they feel bad when they lose. GOD DAMN they should feel bad worse than I do and believe me I feel bad as it gets. I am sick of the false dawns of our Yoyo teams up and down from season to season. You have to admire the rugby league for coming up wth an idea that actually guarantees a salford side doesn't stays up for more than a season. If anyone can tell me what progress has been made I will hold my hands up. Please do not tell me we have 20% of the quality needed to do well in this situation because its obvious, We are well known for certain accross the world players being passed their best before coming here, just like the old days with the other teams but unlike the other teams we have not moved on with selection of past sell by dates players. Our future is dismal and we will need more than lottery winning type luck to not finish bottom. Its as good as that. . We need If I can just add that I would say that I said what I said because we a suposed to be watching a professional game and if the very very basics are not done to the slightest like the team is doing then they can forget it.

Our defence is below amateur of the vvvvvery basic they do not defend in a line they never cover the ball as they should , individuals break the line and miss the key tackles constantly. When you look at a teams stats they show breaks etc but the word break means to use force to penetrate resistance “WHAT RESISTANCE”
the tackling is attrocious beyond belief and the lack of coordination means the floodgates open. In attack we have problems stringing paases or thoughts together its absolute one off opportunism. I am astounded by the lack of dedication and professionalism.
I do not need to be told they feel bad when they lose. GOD DAMN they should feel bad worse than I do and believe me I feel bad as it gets. I am sick of the false dawns of our Yoyo teams up and down from season to season. You have to admire the rugby league for coming up wth an idea that actually guarantees a salford side doesn’t stays up for more than a season. If anyone can tell me what
progress has been made I will hold my hands up.
Please do not tell me we have 20% of the quality needed to do well in this situation because its obvious, We are well known for certain accross the world players being passed their best before coming here, just like the old days with the other teams but unlike the other teams we have not moved on with selection of past sell by dates players.
Our future is dismal and we will need more than lottery winning type luck to not finish bottom.
Its as good as that.
.
We need

]]> By: Chris W http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-602 Chris W Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:24 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-602 I think I can understand why people want to call what players do on the pitch but I guess we have to keep within the rules. I would say there are not many players that I would actually single out to say they even tried. To be honest the score really flattered Salford Hull KR were much better than the score sugested. I would have said 70-12 would show the class difference. At least we can't get relegated because if we could we would be looking forward to playing Widnes next year and I must admit I have to agree that my Widnes friends should feel hard done to not being there instead of us. I really do think its laughable that we have signed world class players and no I am not naming players just the side because we are paying good money to watch what is the worse Salford side I have seen , yes we have had worse players but the other older sides tried when they put a shirt on. I am so relieved my mates wife is having a baby so i have to cover my business when we are due to play Warrington. I will miss home games for the first time in decades and this will be my last season. Why because I want to watch rugby, I think I will have to go elsewhere. I think I can understand why people want to call what players do on the pitch but I guess we have to keep within the rules. I would say there are not many players that I would actually single out to say they even tried. To be honest the score really flattered Salford Hull KR were much better than the score sugested. I would have said 70-12 would show the class difference.
At least we can’t get relegated because if we could we would be looking forward to playing Widnes next year and I must admit I have to agree that my Widnes friends should feel hard done to not being there instead of us.
I really do think its laughable that we have signed world class players and no I am not naming players just the side because we are paying good money to watch what is the worse Salford side I have seen , yes we have had worse players but the other older sides tried when they put a shirt on.
I am so relieved my mates wife is having a baby so i have to cover my business when we are due to play Warrington. I will miss home games for the first time in decades and this will be my last season. Why because I want to watch rugby, I think I will have to go elsewhere.

]]> By: Paul Mc http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-601 Paul Mc Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:31:14 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-601 I don't see why you are trying to goad me into a row to be honest. I also fail to see the relevance of more than half of 578 comments being negative. That just underlines my point, that the majority of people on here can comply with pretty much the only thing we ask when it comes to the website. If anybody doesn't feel able to do that that's when it becomes an issue. There are other places online to post that nonsense. This is not one of them. I also don't understand why "it's okay for me, being paid to watch the games" like I don't care. I saw my first Salford game when I was 7 years old, grew up, supported them home and away, worked around the world for massive companies came back to Salford and took a job there, so to suggest I couldn't give a monkeys because of a few quid.... With my self-pity hat on if anything it's tougher because I see both sides. I see the hurt on the fans on match day and the hurt on the players afterwards... Something the fans don't see, and some don't want to believe. After seven games in it is apparent the level of expectation was way too high this season and probably fans, players and staff were all guilty of that. And anybody who knows me, including my employers, know damn well that I'm not scared of what they think of me. I think with my level of experience that's one of the reasons they pay me to do what I do. I don’t see why you are trying to goad me into a row to be honest.

I also fail to see the relevance of more than half of 578 comments being negative. That just underlines my point, that the majority of people on here can comply with pretty much the only thing we ask when it comes to the website. If anybody doesn’t feel able to do that that’s when it becomes an issue. There are other places online to post that nonsense. This is not one of them.

I also don’t understand why “it’s okay for me, being paid to watch the games” like I don’t care. I saw my first Salford game when I was 7 years old, grew up, supported them home and away, worked around the world for massive companies came back to Salford and took a job there, so to suggest I couldn’t give a monkeys because of a few quid…. With my self-pity hat on if anything it’s tougher because I see both sides. I see the hurt on the fans on match day and the hurt on the players afterwards… Something the fans don’t see, and some don’t want to believe.

After seven games in it is apparent the level of expectation was way too high this season and probably fans, players and staff were all guilty of that.

And anybody who knows me, including my employers, know damn well that I’m not scared of what they think of me. I think with my level of experience that’s one of the reasons they pay me to do what I do.

]]> By: Rusk http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-600 Rusk Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:29:32 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-600 Well, with performances like these I know that I'll be putting £20 on Leeds :| Well, with performances like these I know that I’ll be putting £20 on Leeds :|

]]> By: big truck http://reds.originalreddevils.com/2009/03/29/hull-kr-48-12-salford-city-reds/comment-page-1/#comment-599 big truck Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:04:11 +0000 http://reds.originalreddevils.com/?p=4702#comment-599 578 comments i bet more than halve of them are negative as well eh paul ? and as for condoning it, i don't think so, where did the words ' i agree with what they did come into it ' i dont think they did somehow. it was out of order for what they did, can you not see either that the fans are not happy, we actually pay to watch this hoping that something will happen on the pitch, its ok for for you, you get payed to watch the games. asnwer me this do any of the players, coaches actually read any of these, do they not feel guilty of robbing us of our hard earned cash to chose to watch them, i could chose to watch swinton but no i am from salford, i want to watch slaford city reds play and play well not with heads hung down when they are getting beat by 30+ points, when do they actually thank the fans for coming to watch them, i have'nt seen it once this season, only as there walking off the pitch theres a little clap but thats it. players from other clubs from what i see on sky sports actually go up to there fans and thank them for coming win lose or draw. come on paul see it from our point of view, are you scared of what your employers will think if you did. 578 comments i bet more than halve of them are negative as well eh paul ? and as for condoning it, i don’t think so, where did the words ‘ i agree with what they did come into it ‘ i dont think they did somehow. it was out of order for what they did, can you not see either that the fans are not happy, we actually pay to watch this hoping that something will happen on the pitch, its ok for for you, you get payed to watch the games. asnwer me this do any of the players, coaches actually read any of these, do they not feel guilty of robbing us of our hard earned cash to chose to watch them, i could chose to watch swinton but no i am from salford, i want to watch slaford city reds play and play well not with heads hung down when they are getting beat by 30+ points, when do they actually thank the fans for coming to watch them, i have’nt seen it once this season, only as there walking off the pitch theres a little clap but thats it. players from other clubs from what i see on sky sports actually go up to there fans and thank them for coming win lose or draw. come on paul see it from our point of view, are you scared of what your employers will think if you did.

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